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Your golf instruction experience?
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March 14, 2015
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I went for a Driver fitting a few years ago , I was around a 14 handicap ,  and I was advised to get some lessons due to my erratic and inconsistent swing ( of which the instructor couldn't fit me for a driver , in between eating his lunch ) It was the end of the season for me after that .The instructor ,who has already been mentioned in this thread , gave me 6 different things to work on at once , which was information overload for my poor golfing brain . Anyway after taking a few things from that "lesson" I managed to incorporate it into my own comfortable swing , and the next year was getting better , more consistent results .

I fully intend to get a few more lessons in the not too distant future , but I'll make sure that it's one fix ,one step at a time (I know , It may take a lot of years ) the last lesson was far too much too handle , for any calibre of golfer IMO .

March 14, 2015
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One thing I have noticed  from individuals that have a had a poor lesson experience is that they seem reluctant to change anything or expect to fix it in one hour.  I hear phrases like "work with what I have" or "I just wanted a tune up."  The hard truth is that changes in your golf swing are very hard and take lot's of time to implement.  

Muscle/motor patters are very stubborn and in order to change these poor patterns you need to do the following:

1.  Know what the correct movement is

2. Do the new movement correctly with training aids/feedback

3.  Execute it correctly hundreds of times

This was posted on @AndrewRiceGolf today

"Golfers - it's going to take you longer to get better than you think! Only those who stay patient and persist make real improvements."

So here's the deal.  Commit to improvement, find a knowledgeable fact based coach who can communicate (technical knowledge isn't the be all and end all), invest in some lessons, decent equipment and a place to practice.  Do this for a few years and reap the benefits of better play. Anyone who says they enjoy playing lousy golf is full of ........ 

My two cent rant for the day 

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March 15, 2015
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In these days of quick fixes and instant gratification it is more difficult for golfers to accept that to make positive changes in their golf swings, it takes weeks, months and possibly years of correct practice to be able to perform the motion without consciously thinking about it.  The idea that 50 swings a day for 21 days to effect a change is nonsense as the reality is that "it takes as long as it takes." 

After 50+ years of being self taught, which has both helped and hurt at times, I joined the golf school of Gregg and Joe this winter, where they have had me work on one thing only and it is something that I believed needed to be changed.  Judging by what I see on video, feel at impact and see in the flight of the ball at one of the Domes, there has been improvement, but I still have to think about it.  I have given myself two years to be able to effect the change without conscious thought, and fortunately, I have the patience to work at it that long.  The problem is that I am deeper into the back nine of my life, that most posters here are.  LOL

Gregg and Joe keep their instruction both relevant and simple which accelerates improvement.  But as mentioned above, if any one gives you "six" things to think about while swinging, it's time to find someone else.

March 15, 2015
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High Launch, Low Spin said
One thing I have noticed  from individuals that have a had a poor lesson experience is that they seem reluctant to change anything or expect to fix it in one hour.  I hear phrases like "work with what I have" or "I just wanted a tune up."  The hard truth is that changes in your golf swing are very hard and take lot's of time to implement.  

Muscle/motor patters are very stubborn and in order to change these poor patterns you need to do the following:

1.  Know what the correct movement is

2. Do the new movement correctly with training aids/feedback

3.  Execute it correctly hundreds of times

This was posted on @AndrewRiceGolf today

"Golfers - it's going to take you longer to get better than you think! Only those who stay patient and persist make real improvements."

So here's the deal.  Commit to improvement, find a knowledgeable fact based coach who can communicate (technical knowledge isn't the be all and end all), invest in some lessons, decent equipment and a place to practice.  Do this for a few years and reap the benefits of better play. Anyone who says they enjoy playing lousy golf is full of ........ 

My two cent rant for the day 

Signed: 

Passionate PGA of Canada Member

So here's the deal ? Are you giving away lessons ?

I never said I didn't want lessons or improve my swing , I know that it takes a long time to fix things in golf , and I would be committed to fix all my swing issues if it was broken down into basic categories , one at a time. When a PGA professional gives you six different things to focus on at once , it's too much , you can't do it , and this was my issue 

Dont be too quick to judge people within this post with your comments on how We should all look at golf .

If a person wants a quick fix or a tune up , then a pro should be able to do that too , within reason ,and relay that it is only a quick fix and that  an individual should invest in some more lessons if he wants to get better at the game.

I was at Kevin Haimes hitting balls one day , when Greg Foley was kind enough to stop and give me advice on my hand position on my swing (he was just watching golfers and chatting to a few people at the range) , it was something simple enough to stop me slicing the ball and something I've incorporated into my swing since. 

March 15, 2015
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I certainly don't judge, I truly care about the progress my students are making. I am very lucky to be in a position to help people with their golf games, their physical conditioning and mental well being.  To me a golf lesson is more than a grip change.

Pardon me if I came across as defensive but sometimes golfers are quick to blame the PGA Professional for their swing confusion and lack of progress.  Some golfers may take one or two lessons and don't practice anything that was taught. Or after the lesson they'll watch School of Golf and Michael Breed and try something new the next day and get even more confused. I'll admit that some PGA Professionals could improve their content and delivery but the responsibility should be shared on some occasions. 

I truly want all golfers to enjoy the game as much as possible and want more people to get into this great game .  I've enjoyed it my entire life and love it as much today as I did when I started.  

To everyone on this forum, may your golfing goals be met in 2015.

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I have recently been participating in some lessons...(I'm basically the Taxi Driver for the student) lol, and I can honestly say, to this point I have never seen anything like the information being provided to the student. I sit and watch, and I myself learn the golf swing without even touching a club. I understand more about path, club face, attack angle and so on than I thought was even possible. The golfers swing seems to me to be as unique as an artists painting style but if they understand where that club face needs to be when it meets the ball, really, they will be on the road to improvement. Now I personally have had lessons in the past (in my mid 40's now) but have never witnessed the quality of teaching by this individual, ever before. I was just a paycheque. I'm not saying who it is, because this isn't a sales pitch, but perhaps teaching should include more theory! Is it possible that part of a golf lesson should be that you spend a couple of hours, just on theory of ball flight? IMHO

March 17, 2015
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I have recently been participating in some lessons...(I'm basically the Taxi Driver for the student) lol, and I can honestly say, to this point I have never seen anything like the information being provided to the student. I sit and watch, and I myself learn the golf swing without even touching a club. I understand more about path, club face, attack angle and so on than I thought was even possible. The golfers swing seems to me to be as unique as an artists painting style but if they understand where that club face needs to be when it meets the ball, really, they will be on the road to improvement. Now I personally have had lessons in the past (in my mid 40's now) but have never witnessed the quality of teaching by this individual, ever before. I was just a paycheque. I'm not saying who it is, because this isn't a sales pitch, but perhaps teaching should include more theory! Is it possible that part of a golf lesson should be that you spend a couple of hours, just on theory of ball flight? IMHO

Learning styles are certainly different for each athlete (no matter the sport) but presenting facts can certainly be an important basis for coaching that is sometimes overlooked.  And you are right, styles can vary a lot but the golf ball only reacts to the conditions it is being subjected to at collision with the clubhead.

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Currently getting instruction at Golftec. I was tired of not being able to consistently hit the ball from one round to the next. I started with them in early September and have not regretted it. I've come a long way with my swing. When I started I was at 16 handicap and int the month and a half of handicap season dropped to 13.1,  I'm addicted to this game and only want to get better.

  It's not the cheapest but the results are what matters for me. I find its value worth more than pounding balls at the range trying to fix a swing or duplicate something I saw on golfchannel lessons. lol   At least with the instruction I can see through video and work on the correct mechanics of the swing.                                                   

Was able to have my first outdoor range session today. With everything I've been taught over the winter months, I must say I'm very happy with my swing and consistency of hitting the ball. It was effortless and enjoyable!!

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